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Post by ElAlmugavar on Fri 17 Dec 2010 - 11:38

I agree with the civs,but I investigate more units:
For the bizatines:Trebizond archers,Lathinkon,Varadotai,Skythinkon.
For the Turks:janissary,Ghazi,Turkomanos,Azab.

I have a question about the civs. if it would have mor civilizations of Europe?
Like the Spanish Empire or the Al-Andalus.
Poland,Holy Roman Empire,France,Venetians.

Sorry of my vocabulary, i don't speak english very well.
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Re: Nice civilizations

Post by The Dude on Fri 17 Dec 2010 - 12:41

1st of all, welcome! Very Happy
ElAlmugavar wrote:
I have a question about the civs. if it would have mor civilizations of Europe?
Like the Spanish Empire or the Al-Andalus.
Poland,Holy Roman Empire,France,Venetians.
I do have the answer to that, but I don't know if I'm at liberty to say. Razz
Sorry of my vocabulary, i don't speak english very well.

That's no problem. Wink

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Re: Nice civilizations

Post by shadowflame on Fri 17 Dec 2010 - 13:50

We're we going to make language forums? And welecome to the site. As dude has already told you we have the answer but i'm not sure if we should tell you.

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Re: Nice civilizations

Post by peugeot407 on Fri 17 Dec 2010 - 22:01

Why not? I don't think it's top secret (you can even find it on our AoE3H thread) that the eventual release of Knights and Barbarians will have 14 civs:

-Byzantines (obviously the Byzantine Empire)
-Mongols (Golden Horde)
-Spanish (United Kingdoms of Leon and Castille)
-Vikings (Kingdom of Denmark)
-English (Duchy of Normandy)
-Italians (Most Serene Republic of Venice)
-French (House of Valois)
-Slavs (Kingdom of Poland)
-Saracens (Salah-al-Din's Dominions)
-Moors (Caliphate of Cordoba)
-Turks (quite generic, so it's up to your imagination whether they're the Seljuks or the Ottomans)
-Flemish (Duchy of Flanders)
-Germans (Holy Roman Empire)
-Crusaders (Kingdom of Jerusalem)

Welcome to these forums, and you'll probably be delighted to know the Spanish will get a unique unit called the Almughavar, a replacement for the anti-archer units other civs get...


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Re: Nice civilizations

Post by The Dude on Sat 18 Dec 2010 - 9:15

peugeot407 wrote:
-Slavs (Kingdom of Poland)
My favorite civ. The Dude
Anyways I didn't know if you wanted the public to know.

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Re: Nice civilizations

Post by ElAlmugavar on Mon 20 Dec 2010 - 6:26

Sorry peugeot, i mistoke i forgot the civs in the K&B thread:
What time are you talking about?
because i know the barbarians existed in the times of the estern and western roman empire.
but it doesn't matter.

i investigated units for the spanish:Almugavar,conquistador,tercio pikemen,garrochista,moors guard,castillian guard,rodeleros(XVI century times of carlosV).for te polish:polish nobles,berdiches axemen.
for the moors:tuaregs riders,camel gunner,grenadine cav.,moors guard.
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Re: Nice civilizations

Post by The Dude on Mon 20 Dec 2010 - 7:23

ElAlmugavar wrote:
for te polish:polish nobles,berdiches axemen.
Polish nobles are szlachta I have never heard of a "berdiches axemen" though. Besides most of the Slavs UU's will be cavalry.

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Re: Nice civilizations

Post by shadowflame on Wed 22 Dec 2010 - 6:12

conquistador good
tercio pikemen good ( could be teamed with a tercio musketeer.)
garrochista sure
moors guard I think this should be a merc
castillian guard Ah ok more info?
rodeleros(XVI century times of carlosV).These work as rodeleros are more appropriate for this time

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Re: Nice civilizations

Post by peugeot407 on Wed 22 Dec 2010 - 6:51

I believe the idea was for the Spanish to have three unique units:

-Almughavar: Javelin armed counter-archer that deals lots of damage and moves at high speed. Very vulnerable in melee. (replacement for Skirmisher)
-Jinete: Ranged cavalry unit that throws javelins and moves at very high speed. Can stand its ground in melee better than most ranged cavalry (replacement for Cavalry Archer)
-Conquistador: Cavalry unit that offers a good compromise between speed and hitpoints. Armed with a sword (replacement for Light Cavalry)

Tercios and Rodeleros could be unique upgrades. The Moor Guard wouldn't make much sense, considering the Moors are another full civilisation in K&B.


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Re: Nice civilizations

Post by Maxulino on Sat 22 Jan 2011 - 8:22

hello guys I was asking myself if the religion building for the jerusalem would be sinagogue,church, or musk cuz the crusaders were catholic but I would really like if it was a jewish cuz I am jewish.
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Re: Nice civilizations

Post by Nero on Sat 22 Jan 2011 - 10:40

I agree with Synagogue (I am also Jewish) since Israel is the only Jewish country, I feel that it is right to make it so.
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Re: Nice civilizations

Post by Maxulino on Sat 22 Jan 2011 - 10:45

true the only place where jewish rule
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Re: Nice civilizations

Post by The Dude on Sat 22 Jan 2011 - 11:53

I did think of a Freedom of Religion idea, but that was for Slavs because the Kingdom of Poland allowed freedom of religion.

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Re: Nice civilizations

Post by Nero on Sat 22 Jan 2011 - 13:24

still I think that there should be some Jewish representation in AoE
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Post by The Dude on Sat 22 Jan 2011 - 13:34

Of course, but the Crusaders wouldn't be the place to start because most of them are Catholic. Poland had religious freedom since 1264 so I was thinking you could chose your religion via a politician system, and then you get the building corresponding with that religion.

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Re: Nice civilizations

Post by Maxulino on Sat 22 Jan 2011 - 14:06

You could use this on the crusaders too cuz the jewish and muçulmans could pray on their religion places( but should pay some taxes for that)
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Re: Nice civilizations

Post by shadowflame on Sat 22 Jan 2011 - 14:11

May i ask where your from? (french?)

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Re: Nice civilizations

Post by Maxulino on Sat 22 Jan 2011 - 14:19

Brasil
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Re: Nice civilizations

Post by The Dude on Sat 22 Jan 2011 - 14:49

Maxulino wrote:You could use this on the crusaders too cuz the jewish and muçulmans could pray on their religion places( but should pay some taxes for that)
If it's historically correct then Robert might add it.

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Re: Nice civilizations

Post by Maxulino on Sat 22 Jan 2011 - 14:52

I have seen this on the movie the kingdom of heaven
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Post by The Dude on Sat 22 Jan 2011 - 14:54

Movie's aren't historically correct all the time.

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Re: Nice civilizations

Post by Maxulino on Sat 22 Jan 2011 - 14:57

Yeah but can be and its really likely it is.
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Re: Nice civilizations

Post by Nero on Sat 22 Jan 2011 - 15:50

I agree with The Dude's idea before about choosing a religion, but there would have to be significant differences between religious bonuses
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Re: Nice civilizations

Post by Maxulino on Sat 22 Jan 2011 - 15:59

Yes it could be jewish stronger infantary and citizens better on collecting food, catholic better cavalary
and citizens better on collecting wood and muçul wood and artilery.
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Re: Nice civilizations

Post by Nero on Sat 22 Jan 2011 - 17:55

something like that.
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